May 28th, 2010 
dave a small group of guys that i am a part of has been discussing the atonement as a result of watching this video featuring mark driscoll, pastor of mars hill church in seattle, washington. i want to share some quotes with you all from this video:
“god hates all who do evil.” “we sin, God hates us!” ”we do what we are!”
interesting. how do we reconcile this with john 3:16, never mind a whole score of passages in scripture that speak of God’s intense love for humanity, despite their wickedness? interesting that it doesn’t say that god so hated the evildoers of the world that he sent his only son to redeem them.
this is not to say that it doesn’t in fact say that God hates evildoers in psalm 5:5, but we must not take one verse and apply an emotion or characteristic to God that seems entirely inconsistent when compared to the revelation of Jesus Christ.
“there is a sense in which God loves us, to be sure.”
ya don’t say?! this comment is made as though it’s an afterthought, or possibly even a secondary characteristic or emotion that God feels towards God’s creation. what part of Christ’s gospel of the in-breaking kingdom of God screams out that God won’t love you until you love him back (which Driscoll believes God controls anyway – see doctrine of predestination)?! it is so unbelievably inconsistent that it genuinely scares me.
“we all want to receive mercy and give justice.” i say amen to this one. we are all hypocrites.
now, i’ve made my opinion concerning driscoll’s teachings known before, and i’m really not trying to ruffle any feathers, but i really do have some major concerns with some of the things he is preaching to thousands and thousands of people. check out some more of these quotes from a video about how pastor mark not only approves of mma (mixed martial arts) and ufc, but encourages it:
“i don’t think there’s anything purer than two guys in a cage…no balls, no sticks, no bats, no help, no team…and see which guy is better.”
that’s right, God calls on us to show we are better than our fellow man by beating the piss out of them…
“men are made for combat. men are made for conflict. men are made for dominion.”
wouldn’t he be more comfortable describing this attribute of men as our depraved state? i’m not saying we should be tiptoeing through the tulips, but i must say, the non-violent leadership and teaching of Jesus Christ is hardly a wimpy way to live. i believe he died as a result of NOT fighting back, and rebuked those who did. just a thought.
“let men be men, and do what men do, and let the other fat, lazy men criticize them while watching.”
nice.
please forgive me. i just had to rant. i know it’s a really easy target, but this kind of stuff just eats at me. i feel like this guy is representing an entirely different Jesus than the one i read about in scripture. please don’t take my word for it. watch this quick video and come to your own conclusions.
god hates us
peace
-dave-
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